November 12, 2008

  • A Fresh Coat of Hate – “Faggots”, “Niggers” & the Paradox of the Christian Right

    I wrote about this over a year ago, but with the recent events surrounding Proposition 8, I thought it would be a good time to revisit this topic.

    Back in March of 2007, before Proposition 8 and a black President Elect, I wrote a post called “Perceptions” about a woman I know whose father didn’t let her listen to Diana Ross & the Supremes when she was little, because he said it was “nigger music“.  As a child she did not perceive this as a racist remark.  (Just as I grew up hearing my own mother routinely use the expression, “Who was your nigger last year?”, when I asked her to get something for me.  It was a phrase her mother used to say to her and so on…)  Similarly, my older relatives who lived through World War II have very different perceptions of Germans and Japanese people than I do.  No one is born with perceptions.  They come from our upbringing and our life’s experiences; and the older we get, the harder they are to change.  (Though apparently it is possible, as several of my elderly family members voted for Obama!!) 

    This is why a large majority of younger voters have traditionally voted the political party of their parents (see graph).  Since just roughly 60% of Americans live in the same state they were born, it stands to reason that voting patterns remain consistent in states throughout the years.  (Indeed the 40% who move away, typically move to more traditionally liberal and urban areas.)  So perceptions may not be as easily changed as one might think.

    The book “Talking Right – How Conservatives Turned Liberalism Into A Tax Raising, Latte Drinking, Sushi Eating, Volvo Driving, New York Times Reading, Body Piercing, Hollywood Loving, Left Wing Freakshow”, tells the story of a “a subtle linguistic campaign whose architects – from Spiro Agnew to Karl Rove, have altered the meaning of our everyday political vocabulary. ‘Values’ has strayed far from its dictionary meaning to become the exclusive property of the right; liberal has become a designation for people whose taste in cars, cheese, and coffee puts them “out of touch” with real Americans; the “ownership society” has become a pretext for apportioning wealth to the haves and have-mores.”  After reading the book I had a better understanding of the divide, and how it happened.  I understood the whole “red state/blue state” thing much better.  What I still couldn’t put my finger on however, was how the perception of love could be so different between groups of Americans.  The divide in America between right and left is growing, and it’s evangelical Christians that are leading the way. (People like Peter Singer, the so called ”Blue State Philosopher are rarely in the media, perhaps for good reason.)  From gay marriage to racism, I could write pages about how the Christian Right’s positions (perceptions) on so many of these issues is patently “un-Christian” and hardly reflects the “Love Thy Neighbor” dictum.

    Some of you may have already seen this Keith Olberman video that’s been circulating widely regarding Prop. 8. 

    Today, I sent this video to a conservative Christian friend of mine (who believes that being gay is a choice), wondering how he could counter such an impassioned plea.  This was his response:

    I’ll take him on!  Liberals just don’t get it.   They think it is about denying happiness and rights.  It is not “Hate” (which is interesting given that a group who hates others for taking away something where they tried to do a total end-around by having four judges invalidate a proposition on a technicality then didn’t have the guts to bring the issue to be people and explain their position before opening the floodgates… and then complain about something being “ripped away”)    Please, it’s a little disingenuous to see people who abuse the democratic process accuse anyone who does not hold their position of hate.    I guess people who don’t like smoke being blown in their face “hate” smokers (oh but that is a liberal thing… that can’t be hate), and anyone who would like to see a child born rather than aborted “hate” women (though I guess if it is the other way, do I “hate” unborn children?).  It’s solely about procreation and protecting the child’s stability and environment.  Going back to my Biblical soapbox, Genesis 2:14 says:

    For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

    Nothing about this is about all of the self centered adults (either divorced or gay). 

    Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  If you think like this and believe the Bible is infallible, I suspect no amount of protesting or arguing will change your mind.  If you remove the religion from this argument (to level the playing field), at least it’s articulate.  The Mormons take it to a whole other level.  Case in point:  Listen to this incredibly ignorant Mormon woman who called Michelangelo Signorile today.  It’s about 15 minutes long, but she starts getting really goofy at about 8 minutes.

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    Whenever I hear this kind of rhetoric, I think of the musical “Rent” and how its message resonates in my life.  When I first saw the play in 1996 in New York City its philosophy was so profound that I went on to see it more than 15 times in 7 countries.  The story is an old one, 156 years old to be exact.  1851 was the year that Henri Murger published the book Scènes de la Vie de Bohème a story about his friends; so called “Bohemians” or “starving artists” living in the Latin Quarter of Paris in the mid 1800′s.  His friends had the same names as the central characters in “Rent” (with American updates; Rodolpho became Roger, Marcel became Mark, etc.).  50 years after the book was published, Puccini turned it into the famous opera La Boheme, which in turn, 100 years later became the musical “Rent“.  The central themes of all three were the same.  Wikipedia presents this chart:

    Character in La bohème Character in Rent
    Mimi, a seamstress with tuberculosis Mimi Marquez, an S&M dancer with AIDS
    Rodolfo, a poet with TB Roger Davis, a musician with AIDS
    Marcello, a painter Mark Cohen, a filmmaker
    Musetta, a singer Maureen Johnson, a bisexual performance artist
    Schaunard, a musician with TB Angel Dumott Schunard, a gay cross-dressing drummer with AIDS
    Colline, a philosopher with TB Tom Collins, a gay computer whiz and Anarchist philosopher with AIDS
    Alcindoro, a state councillor Joanne Jefferson, a lesbian lawyer
    Benoit, a landlord Benjamin ‘Benny’ Coffin III, also a landlord

    No matter how hard the characters try to fight it, they all come to the realization that love is the strongest force we know.  Stronger than heroin, AIDS or even death.  Be it the “starving artists” in the Latin Quarter of 19th Century Paris, the American Bohemians like Jack Kerouac in the 50′s or the drug addled, AIDS victims in Jonathan Larson’s masterpiece “Rent”; they all knew this “fact”, and they lived their lives accordingly.  Even in this age of social networking and a truly wired global technosphere; it’s good to be reminded that we are all connected by the powerful force of love, and that a broken heart universally hurts.  “We don’t own emotion, we rent.”  How ironic, that Jonathan Larson, the composer and playwright of “Rent”, dropped dead of an aortic aneurysm the night before the show opened on Broadway in 1996.  After all, “Rent” is about living for today, because you never know what tomorrow might bring.

    Last year I had a conversation with the same woman I spoke of in the first paragraph (she’s also an evangelical Christian).  She told me that I would be proud of her, because she finally watched the movie, based on the musical “Rent”.  I asked her how she liked it, and she basically thought it was “disgusting”.  At first I was taken aback by her response.  I know the movie wasn’t nearly as good as the play, but it was unfathomable to me how anyone could find these ageless, central themes anything but life affirming and beautiful.  She admittedly shed tears at the sad parts, but implied that all of the tragedy and sadness of the movie was a result of the characters (“Lesbos” was one of the words she used), not seeking the love of God.  They were seeking love in the wrong place.  Their addictions, (heroin) and diseases, (AIDS) were their own doing.  I fail to see the Christ-like thinking in this sentiment and told her so.  It’s like the Pope’s recent proclamation that only Catholics can go to heaven.  Excuse me?  

    She quoted Matthew 6:33 

    6:33  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

    After reading my original blog on this subject, the same woman wrote to me and said the following:

    Ok, Carey, I read your blog and my quotes, which I really don’t remember using the word “disgusting” but rather the word “sad” in regards to RENT.  Anyway, read your own blog and tell me what is wrong with this picture?  Compare the characters of the two casts. 
     
    Today, it is…
    Dancer with AIDS
    Musician with AIDS
    Bisexual artist
    Cross-dresser with AIDS
    Gay computer whiz with AIDS
    Lesbian lawyer
     
    What does this cast say about the state of the world today?  How messed up are we?  Oh, but I’m sure that all those that march in the Gay Pride parades will be happy when all of society looks like this, and there are no healthy heterosexual people left.  Hey, come to think of it, Africa is starting to look a lot like this today.
     
    But of course, it’s not their fault, and they are only seeking love and feeling good, whether that comes from drugs or a readily available sexual partner, no matter the cost, because the cost is not worth giving up the pleasure.  Hey, I understand.  I felt the same way.  No way was I going to give my heart to Jesus because I just knew it meant I was going to have to give up the good times.  But I realized that there was only heartache at the end of those good times – a hangover, infection or unwanted pregnancy, lung cancer.  A lot of wonderful things to give up, and still I hung on – you know that, Carey.  I still do not want to give up some of those “fun times,” but now I find myself having more fun in seeking a different kind of joy, so it is not “giving up” but “desiring” something else more.
     
    By the way, your blog only tells half the story & I resent that you present me & my perceptions being handed down and totally accepted by what my parents said.  Just because my father called our music “nigger” music and told us not to hang out with those niggers at church and that we couldn’t even be in the same house as my cousin that married an African, didn’t mean that we didn’t recognize these as unfair racist beliefs, and believe me we didn’t stop playing our music, hanging out with the colored kids, or visiting my cousin.  You have to remember Martin Luther King Jr. was a hero of ours also, because he stood up for what was right and fair and did so without violence.  Those perceptions were part of my environment too.
     
    And, let me say this about what you call “un-Christian” attitude and not showing love to our poor “it’s not my fault” homosexuals.  I have not, nor have I ever not cared for a friend or family member (yes I have them in my family too) because they were homosexual.  God’s Word tells us to speak out against sin, but never the sinner.  You know, we don’t have Christian Right parades.  We don’t have “all white” colleges.  We don’t have Heterosexual Pride parades.  But somehow we should accept what is an abomination to God as ok, and before long MANBLA (or whatever that organization of men with little boys is called) will be trying to convince you that the little boys “like” what is happening to them, that they “want” done to them what these men are doing & they will convince the little boys too.  If God says fornication when not married, with the same sex, or with animals is wrong, forgive me, but I cannot say that God is wrong, and I only have to look at the way we were beautifully and wonderfully made for our own species to realize He cannot be wrong.
     
    Sorry, I went on too long, but you know I love you, little brother..
     
    – M
     

    My response:

    Thanks M,
     
    I’m going to try to reproduce in writing what you and I talked about on the phone after you sent this email.  As I explained, I didn’t say you “said” Rent was disgusting, I said you “thought” it was disgusting.  That is what I gleaned from the contempt in your voice when we discussed it.  That contempt was what initially took me aback. Much of what you say boils down to the fact that you think being gay is a choice.  I do not believe this is true, and since we have talked about this many times, I won’t rehash it here.
     
    I do apologize if my words implied that you agreed with what your father said, or did not recognize it as racist.  I simply meant to imply (through my examples), that most people form their initial perceptions of things from their parents, and many children grow up not knowing any other way.  Though I don’t consider you or I racists, I’m sure that there are people who would, simply because of some of our beliefs (just like one of the comments already posted here, called me a “nigger lover”).  Your point about Martin Luther King is well taken.  I wonder how you would feel if there was an equivalent leader fighting for the rights of gays?
     
    I think you’re such a good person M, and I know you think the same of me.  You’ve never tried to strongly impose your beliefs on me as others have, and I enjoy our debates.  I know that neither of us know all the answers, and I’d like to think we’re both living our lives the best we can.  As I grow older and continue to lose my religion, I take solace in the fact that there are people like you that help bring another perspective to the matter.  I’m also comforted by the fact that there are other things in this world besides religion that help people to understand we’re all connected by common bonds.  Be it simply a musical that teaches us to live for today and that love does indeed conquer all, or a global event that unites all humans as one (the tsunami for example).

    I know that we both agree that the websites and videos referenced above, represent evil and the worst kind of hate; and whether or not you believe in God, no one deserves such vitriolic rage directed at them.  I’ll end the way I began.  There’s a song from Rent that talks about this “Bohemian” life which some find so repulsive, called “La Vie Boheme” (The Bohemian Life):

    To sodomy
    It’s between God and me.
    To faggots, lezzies, dykes, cross dressers too.
    To me….To you….
    To people living with….not dying from disease.
    Let he among us without sin,
    Be the first to condemn.
    La Vie Boheme.
    Anyone out of the mainstream.
    Is anyone in the mainstream?
    Anyone alive with a sex drive.
    Tear down the wall.
    Aren’t we all?
    The opposite of war isn’t peace.
    It’s creation.
    La Vie Boheme.
    Viva La Vie Boheme.

    So that’s the paradox.  The older I get, the more this kind of thinking is what roils me about organized religion.  Be it movies like “Jesus Camp” or websites like www.lovegodsway.org or www.godhatesfags.com; I think I’ll stick to “The Golden Rule“.

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    I rest my case:


Comments (32)

  • This is by far your best blog ever. Bravo!   The videos and the audio is simply outrageous! I couldn’t even stand watching that last video to the end. 

  • Thank you for reminding anyone who reads this that love and pain are universal (in other words, “catholic”?). “For “ALL: have sinned and come short of the glory of God”. No one of us has the right to sit on our own dunghill and condemn another’s, and to hate someone for something they cannot help is bigotry, no matter how one tries to whitewash it.

    I have never understood how people can think being gay is a choice. What person would choose to be different in a society that has so often brutalized people for being different? Who would just “decide” to be gay, knowing the pain this world will inflict on him/her for it?

    When we insist that our religious beliefs should be used as the moral standard for those who don’t share our beliefs, when we insist that as believers we have a right to condemn, we get things like the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, The Scopes Monkey Trial, and organizations like Al Qaeda, Hamas, and  Westboro Baptist Church.

    I’ll stop now before I preach a whole sermon. Love ya, Carey (and Vivek, if you pop back to this blog).

  • This was a great post! Thanks,MlleRobillard for the recommendation!

  • Insightful and profound. Really well written and borders on being almost poignant. Hope that all peoples of the world will recognize the truth that is in this post and feel the compassion that is generated here.

  • It reminded me of a quote from Hairspray (the new one anyway):

    “Your mother and I, we don’t see much past our front door. But you? You see all the way to Schenectady.”

    That was mostly about integration and ironic for the understatement.
    But there’s a certain truth to that understatement. With integration
    and racial equality, that generation saw a good bit beyond their
    parents and past generations, but only so far. A lot of them didn’t
    (and don’t) see around the world or even into different regions.

    And then there’s a point where people get their own families and their
    own front doors, and it’s safe, and they’re not too interested in being
    progressive or changing the world. It becomes easier to remain
    untainted by change. They don’t generally go backwards and become
    racist again, but progress often stops.

    Maybe not so much in California, but I think most of my contemporaries
    elsewhere can tolerate basic gay rights and staying out of our bedrooms
    but some of them may never want to go so far as giving us marriage,
    even if they had been progressive on gay issues in the past.

    I just hope this is as temporary as I keep telling myself it is.

  • i LOVE rent. :D

  • there’s still some vids & recordings i can’t listen to at work because our system blocks them, but i get the drift and you are so right – some very good people just don’t get it – they don’t understand that God made us this way – why, i don’t know but i’m sure He’s got his reasons.  why would anyone choose to be gay?  sex feels good physically regardless of the gender of your partner – a fact i know first hand – so why choose to be an outcast, why choose to be hated or at least considered disgusting by others, why choose to be considered a sinner by others whoose opinions matter nought on that subject, why choose to live in fear – why indeed?  will God be more pleased with me if i choose to live a lie?  but alas, i’m wasting perfectly good electrons here preaching to the choir.  thanks for your efforts though.  peace, Al

  • 1) unlike “them” I can see the other side’s point of view. I too
    think gay people sometimes are too much. I do get frustrated when I see
    gay right activists pushing for the right to do anything anytime and
    anywhere. But then she brings up bible quotes and Nambla… oh, Lord!! 
    :)  If these people could instead just quote one thing from a
    science-based publication I would be thrilled. Also because I think
    their arguments would implode: just one scientific fact and they would
    be unable to build their arguments around it. For instance, if she is
    so worried about Nambla, I assume she chooses to ignore statistics
    showing that the great majority of sex predators are straight?! But
    maybe that’s less of a sin if you are straight, given the religious
    sects they have been arresting lately (in “real america” too, no
    liberal bias there). I guess numbers mean nothing unless they are bible
    verses, huh? 2) I disagree with the implicit order of your “perceptions”
    argument. I think perceptions are formed in minds that are or aren’t
    rascists. I can look at the exact same world, community, individual
    behavior and attribute it to 100 other rational causes. Someone else
    may attribute that behavior to race, nationality, or sexual
    orientation. In contact with million instances of personal behavior
    everyday, our (rascist, sexist, homophobic) minds will pick and choose
    the one that fits our “theory” and reinforces our “perception”. I
    actually would change the word around and say that is “lack of
    perception” that perpetuates prejudice. It’s failing to realize that
    the target group (target of our prejudice) does/acts 99% of the time
    just like we (and the chosen few) do. It’s failing to realize that our
    “perception” doesn’t even stand a simple probability check.

  • I see you beat me to posting K.O.’s impassioned ‘love’ speech.  hehe.   Here’s my speech: Politics, religion, whatever aside….I just can’t comprehend how anyone can’t see gay inequality as the next social injustice that, when we look back to this time in the near or far future, mankind will feel ashamed for ever denying us these rights.  Women’s right to vote, blacks’ right to marry and sit at the front of the bus….history repeating itself.  I just can’t get over that.  Thanks for being such a fighter and public voice out there in the hot zone, Carey!

  • On November 5th, the heady buzz of election night had faded to a throbbing headache. My beloved home state, California, had at once voted to demand more legroom for chickens and pigs on factory farms (Prop 2) and to deny the state’s many gays the right to marry (Prop 8). In the past five days, thousands of people from Palm Springs to Long Beach to Los Angeles to San Francisco have hit the streets to protest the constitutional revision; several were arrested, and at least one was beaten prior to arrest. There are already three lawsuits headed to the California courts to challenge Prop 8, and both supporters and opponents of gay marriage have vowed that the fight is far from over.

    Prop 8 adds the following language to California’s constitution: “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” News of its passing left many shaking their heads, wondering how a state like California could give its votes to Changey McHoperson and at the same time approve a socially regressive constitutional revision. But in spite of its hippie radical reputation, California’s voting trends generally look a lot like the rest of the nation’s: a wide red middle, book-ended by blue. And though change has been the watchword of recent months, we sometimes forget that with change comes an inevitable backlash from those who fear becoming displaced in society.

    Still, Prop 8 is on the losing side of history. The sex-panic button regularly gets hit in response to social change, racial tension, economic instability and foreign wars. The majority gets majorly freaked out when other people win the rights that they already enjoy, as though rights are finite and should be stockpiled like so many cans of beans in case of nuclear fallout. These regressions are frustrating and hurtful, but a study of history can put them in perspective.

    Until 1977 the California Civil Code didn’t have a specific gender requirement for marriage. The clause about marriage was actually gender-neutral from its ratification in 1850, defining marriage only as “a personal relation arising out of a civil context, to which the consent of the parties capable of making that contract is necessary.”

    Of course, the switch from gender-neutral to gender-specific didn’t happen because Californians suddenly and randomly got their panties in a damp tangle. In 1977 the nation had just disengaged from the deeply unpopular war in Vietnam. Stagflation and the oil crisis were taking turns punching the American economy in the kidneys. Just four years earlier, Roe v. Wade had overturned all state and federal laws restricting abortion. And eight years earlier, the Stonewall Riots in New York City sparked a three-day uprising, arguably turning gay rights into a full-on movement. In this upheaval America’s pre-war gender expectations needed a manly, normative pat on the back. Enter the first repeals of gay-rights ordinances (in Dade County, FL; thanks Anita Bryant!) and the spankin’ new nouns in the California Civil Code.

    For a parallel, look to the 1950s. The same decade that saw the Red Scare and snuck the phrase “under God” into our Pledge of Allegiance also saw the first major legal gains for the African-American civil-rights movement. Desegregation following Brown v. Board of Education itself ignited a sex panic; segregationist leaders rallied their supporters to “protect our women” or prevent the literal (and figurative) “mixing of the races.” To them, a move towards social justice was a move towards a sexual apocalypse.

    Panic usually accompanies change. Regressive leaders sometimes deliberately manipulate this panic to conservative ends. Just ask Karl Rove, who in 2004 whipped up anti-gay hysteria to keep his unpopular client in the White House. (He must have studied his Orwell; in 1984, Winston Smith observes “a direct intimate connexion between chastity and political orthodoxy. For how could the fear, the hatred and the lunatic credulity which the Party needed in its members be kept at the right pitch, except by bottling down some powerful instinct and using it as a driving force?”)

    But more often, regressive sex panic is ingenuous, an honest voicing of base-level sexual insecurity. When anti-equality activists argue that gay marriage somehow hurts straight couples — damaging their marriages, their children, the moral fibers on the couch cushion of our great society — they’re not really talking about gays getting married. They’re talking about their own vulnerability.

    Their arguments are ultimately reactionary, and cannot win in the long term. In fact, Proposition 8 uses the exact same language as 2000′s anti-gay-marriage Proposition 22 — language found this year, by the Republican-dominated California Supreme Court, to be unconstitutional and invalid. In May, the Court ruled in no uncertain terms that bans on same-sex marriage violate the state’s constitution and that civil unions don’t qualify as equal protection under the law. Justice Ronald George, writing for the majority, concluded that “in view of the substance and significance of the fundamental constitutional right to form a family relationship, the California Constitution properly must be interpreted to guarantee this basic civil right to all Californians, whether gay or heterosexual, and to same-sex couples as well as to opposite-sex couples.” So unless the State Supreme Court forgets itself, Prop 8 has a decent chance of going the way of anti-sodomy laws and bans on interracial marriage.

    Note too that eight years ago, Prop 22 passed by a margin of nearly 23 percent; this time around, Prop 8 won by only 5 percent. Equally telling is the fact that the voting bloc most in favor of the ban (61 percent “yes”) was people older than sixty-five. The young’uns voted the exact inverse: 61 percent “no.” For supporters of same-sex equality in California and elsewhere, this is a heartening indication that social perceptions are shifting, albeit slowly. This wedge issue, so divisive in 2004, gets less so with each passing year.

    Progress is never easy — it moves forward and often, maddeningly, back. But from a distant viewpoint, we can recognize that progressive change is both slow and inevitable. That’s not blind optimism — it just means we fight all the harder, even if progress seems glacial. By doing so, we honor the reformers who labored endlessly against seemingly insurmountable wrongs. Many of these, from Elizabeth Cady Stanton to Martin Luther King, didn’t live long enough to see their efforts fully rewarded. That’s all the more reason we should give the last word to King: “The arc of the moral universe is long. But it bends towards justice.”

  • @Dezinerdreams - Best ever?  Wow. That’s nice of you to say.  But you haven’t read them all!   Thanks for taking the time to read it all though.  xo
    @MlleRobillard – Thanks Jess, and thanks for the recommendation.  It’s nice to have you on our side!
    @SamsPeeps - Thanks for stopping by.  I appreciate it.
    @ZSA_MD - That means a lot to me, thank you.  It’s sometimes hard to be compassionate in these situations, but I’m trying.
    @renshuuu - Me too (obviously)!  Have you seen the stage show or just the movie?
    @pukemeister - Thanks for the recommendation, and for representing the Midwest so well!
    @CACP - OK, I’ve read this three times, and I still don’t completely follow your take on “perceptions”.  Perhaps it’s a language barrier.  LOL.  I’ll call you after 8. xo
    @jasonbasin - I couldn’t agree more Jason.  Thanks for holding down the right coast too. 
    @Caitlin MacRae - I hope everyone reads your reply!!

  • @CareyGLY - I’ve only seen the movie. they were showing the stage play thingo but i didn’t have sufficient funs at the time T_T~ oh well heheh anyway great movie

  • Mmm, people who run around quoting the old testament bother me the most. I’ve been through REVIVAL and think it is wonderful for those who truly find salvation through it. But as a good christian boy I learned that the new testament clarifies a lot. Anyway, blah blah blah theology check this out my friend

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSXJzybEeJM

  • Why would God hate something He created?

    God hates fags = paranoid bullshit.

    You’re amazing carey!

    RYC: Lol ahh its ok, I’ll just edit the water predominantly on photoshop then XD

  • That is an amazing entry from you. It got me thinking about gay rights and racist remarks. I can still recall the days when people treated me differently because of my mixed heritage (I’m part Spanish part Asian). Until people realize that God made people different for good reasons, equality and rights shall remain elusive to most.

  • This is an incredible post.  I wanted to see “rent” but I never got around to it, nor did I know what it was about.  Now that I know, it sounds much more interesting and diverse, and I wish I hadn’t missed it.

  • @fickleboy - Oh that’s a classic West Wing clip.  Brilliant!  I remember seeing it the first time it aired.  Gosh, I miss that show.  I always assumed that woman was loosely based on Dr. Laura.  Thanks for finding that!
    @Loltothepower - Exactly!!  I am amazing.  LOL, just kidding.  Thanks though.  You hit the nail on the head!  Thanks Jin.
    @reckless_eagle - From your lips, to the world’s ears.  I wish you could run for president some day!
    @haloed - Thanks.  You could always rent the movie.  It’s not nearly as good as the play, but it’s definitely worth watching, and features almost all of the original play actors, including Taye Diggs and Jesse Martin.

  • @CareyGLY - Renting means downloading illegally on the internet (for me) lol, I will look into it ;)

  • Great post. That last video makes me really angry. Anyhow, I grew up in a similar environment to that woman’s, except in my case my family members are ridiculously homophobic. My parents voted in this year’s election just so that they can vote for prop 8. It sucks. I realize you can’t change the old traditional generation though. So it’s up to our current generation to take charge. I’m glad to know people aren’t as apathetic though when it comes to politics. Progress!

  • Great post, i can’t believe there are people actually post openly on internet. Well its free speech country.

  • @Rm2046 - Yeah, both my parents voted for McCain too.  Crazy!!  Thank goodness for your generation!
    @vsan79 - Yep, that freedom is important too.  Thanks!!

  • I listened to the entire fifteen-minute radio call.  She just doesn’t get it!!

    I’d rather you didn’t even give Fred Phelps a chance of spouting his venom again.

    Great post!   Love to you.

  • @fratmom - Thanks!  I do actually think that whack jobs like Fred Phelps help our cause.  Even most people who are against gay marriage or even gay people, realize that he’s filled with so much hate that perhaps it’s a bit miuch!  Just my two cents!

  • WHy cant we all just be? I mean hell I love everyone equally but it’s not mutual. Sure, My boyfriend gets a little more attention than most. My friends are all equal in my eyes. Who cares if they are black or white or christian Commie or whatever they are all PEOPLE!.  *steps off my soap box*

  • @p4nd4k0d14k - Well said!  Well said indeed.

  • @CareyGLY - i try. Went to the godhates fags site and sent them an email asking them all these questions.

  • @p4nd4k0d14k - Good luck with that…in my experience you can’t reason with those people.  I mean, they actually picketed Heath Ledger’s funeral because he played a gay guy in a movie!
    http://careygly.xanga.com/638887996/heath-ledger-is-now-in-hell–praise-be-to-god/

  • Why do self-claimed “Christians” always quote the Jewish Bible, the OLD Testament, when it comes to sexuality?  Lewis Black has a hilarious bit about this. Google it.
    The NEW Testament and Jesus Christ have a different message, perhaps these “Christians” should read it. Hell, half of them sound more like they are reading the Islamist Quran where it talks repeatedly about killing the non-believers and infidels! 
    They don’t even know their own Bible. Here is a quote:

    1 John 3:12 (NIV)  Do not be like Cain, who
    belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder
    him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother’s were righteous.

    I guess they choose to forget that one.  Apparently, there is NO peaceful religion the way most people practice or live it. Or in their thinking maybe they are possessed by Satan.
    Here is a good quote to make  the cynical at your workplace or in your neighborhood think:

    “Mankind is composed of two sorts of men – those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy.” – Jose Marti 1853-1895.

  • @bigjaker - I did see that Lewis Black bit a while back.  I’ll have to look it up again.  Thanks for the insightful comment.

  • I was watching a lecture of a famous man on TV I don’t know whether he was a politician or what, he had a tablet of Cheap Viagra in his hand and then he began to talk about.

  • Kidney poison cut into my methanfetamine.  The “free” crank had a connection to the employer::::Severe seizures to punish me for stealing.  Both punishment for the same offense.
    Praying for the end of your wide-awake nightmare.
    Ready to leave me alone now assholes?

    “You’re not going to be able to find work.” because the Gods are positioning the Jews preventing me from finding a job.
    Sad thing is these people won’t have ANYTHING to do with it.  The god’s positioning enables them the freedom to sell this telepathically.  The actual people in these clone hosts have learned far too much to do anything foolish enough like participate.  It will set them back and amplify the extreme punishment already in store for them.
    If there is ever people willing to participate they are either the youngsters who have yet to learn or a fresh new clone host, some kid freshly in, grumbling about going into a 60, 65 year old decrepid man.

    They have shared that when the change is initially made they alter the DNA with Artificial Intelligence, ensuring it is not the same person.
    Now depending on their level of activity the Gods switch out for new individuals, ie presidents switched frequently.  They say they bring the (m)father’s DNA when it is time to conceive, so it is strategically important who is in there for the conception of the children.  The same may not be true for typical activity:::the Gods may alter the DNA upon initial clone hosting but it may be a general change.  Conception requires specific DNA.
    And?  So?
    So there are no Rockafellers.  This was how the Gods eliminated their true importance, for now they are little more than lowly English peasants, ironically.
    Now the case can be made that far more men are invited into clone hosting than women, and since lineage is matrilineal it would rather follow that blood line instead.
    All it takes is one.
    But I wonder if it even matters.  Those who learn and are wise enough to refuse the offer of clone hosting still have to repair their relationship with the Gods and hope for a better placement in their next life, one which certainly won’t involve being a billionaire.  Whether real Rockafellers or DNA alternates is of no concequence.  Their goal is still ascention, which takes work and dedication.  Being/thinking you’re capitalism royalty invites a host of temptations, including grandeur and self-importance, which are all damaging to a good relationship with the Gods.
    If only they can overcome the temptations that money brings, like ample stunning women and Scarface piles of cocaine.

    Just as the victims of Mengele’s “showers which clentch you of your life” were the Italians who conceived and implimented WorldWarII’s Blitzkreig, so do I think the unholy alliance between evil Japan and good Germany is the cause of the “Siamese Twins” Mengele experiment:::”sewen together, joining heads, just a matter of time before you rip yourselves apart”.
    World War II, the Holocaust were revenge for Germany’s 5th century AD invasion of the dying Roman Empire,
    Those at the top are the ones who suffered the worst because of their involvement.  Perhaps it was the godfather who experienced the “frozen water burial”  “crack your limbs”.
    Praying for the end of your wide-awake nightmare…
    The Romans destroyed Temple.
    Perhaps Joshua…
    What is the God’s real reason behind WWII?  Punishment?  
    For what?  Crusades?  It was a fight supporting evil Christianity, in defense of evil against their religious superiors.

    Go ahead and ignore this.  You won’t ever defy and do the right thing anyways.
    “These came to life again and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.” Revelation 20:4.
    Don’t forget to try space coke in the blender and fuck as many stunning bitches as your goddamn dick will allow, because this place is going to be ALL about temptation.  Some decent god-fearing people will suceed at resisting temptation, but the Gods will ensure lots of human trash to facilitate temptation.  
    It will be the rare individual who makes the transistion in an enviornment where you can have anything you want.
    “Going along” will “earn” your invitation to the Second Coming of Christ.   You will be reincarnated until that age comes, buy you a mere 1000 years and cost you your chance at immortality, simply because you bought into evil as “earning” and subscribed to the big lie.
    Fuck the God’s lousy reach-around.
    Never doubt that Muslims are your superiors.  These people are dedicated to their religion while your population have abandoned churches in droves.

    I detest how the God’s positioning can give them the appearance of being innocent.  The are responsible for Normandie, Unit 731, Rape of Nanking, “Scorched earth”.
    Of course in this age, as deeply into disfavor we recently fallen, the Gods more often sell “earning” and evil as the way to get into heaven, rather than blame their positioning, a clue suggesting how close we are to the Apocalypse, for the people are incurring “maximum damage”.
    Just as liberals think they are “earning” by promoting social poison, so do conservatives think they are “earning” with UnitedStates warmongering, ie Iraq, Vietnam.  They tried to help you understand on a conservative issue with the Gulf Oil Spill.
    You will pay for the sins of your leaders, either political or social.  How the hippies didn’t realize the Jews were out for revenge for the Holocaust is beyond me, which of course is why I was hired in 1988::To gain a necessary element of positioning that the Gods were going to sell to the disfavored in years to come.

    When I was young the Gods tempted these people by asking them to drop hard-core pornography around my schoolyard where I walked during break, hoping it nurtured an attraction to this particularly obscene form of porn.
    The Gods are trash.  Over and over again we see them cross the lines of decency, but since they have their Italian “Roman Empire resurrected” positioning in place they can sell it as perfectly normal.
    But, much as they initiated the Moorish invasion to create this world of misery for black people, so did they form the Eutruscan’s value system sufficient to position their own goals for western civilization’s rise.
    After the Holocaust, after Normandie, Pacific theater horrors, Vietnam, Afghanistan we see the pathology of the Gods.

    We no longer see orphanages for good reason::::The state would be forced to use professionals, experts in their field to devise standards these facilities would apply to the children. These standards would illustrate an ideal rearing goals which we in fact could all learn from.
    This is an outstanding example of reverse positioning and how the Gods created a society where evil appears good but also socially acceptable.
    Civil Righs is a similar issue.  Segregation in today’s age would command full funding for black universities and well established black jounralism and media outlets, not this integrated white media cancer where blacks eat what they are fed.

    The clone hosts who run corporate entered clone hosting under the belief that “earning” their way into heaven by being obedient was the system.  Now they will do anything requested by the Gods.
    The Gods run corporate through these individuals.  They are the “alpha males” of the pig pen.

    The Gods never intended to allow the prophet to be used to lead by example.  I have FAR too large an audience for that to be allowed and, conisistant with the advanced state of deterioration of the disfavored, now the Gods can blame me for its failure, when all along they were never going to allow it.  
    They claim I would have no choice but to work on my problems if I am to function in the corporate enviornment.  Ironically, the probelms they created are the REASON behind what’s happened.

    He who will Lead By Example is to come later, with a scaled down audience, for disfavored like my family is not entitled to witness the long, arduous path to Salvation.
    Keep in mind the Gods along the way would have created oppositing evidence to dump them into, perhaps killed me/change me and claimed “clone host”, selling them on this lie, likely since it would have encompassed a far larger audience and would have reinforced the lie they already sold to them for decades.

    Everybody changes as they get older, becomes more conservative.  As do I.
    Perhaps I see the wisdom of the Gods.  People like those who exploited me, those like my family who hurt me are not entitled to observe someone on the path, for it will provide an opportuinity to escape Damnation.
    Perhaps I don’t want that either.  There are too many preditors out there who still think “earning” is the way.
    I would be killed, the’d sell them I ascended into heaven and I’d be punished.  What’s happened placed a limit on how much progress they will tolerate, and once I reached that point they would finish me.
    Normally this would be a good thing, because people wrapped up in this enviornment fall for its temptations, and the result is they are better off dead.  Living my life as normal places me square into this category::
    1. I curse the Gods when they abuse me
    2. I will eat apples/fruit out of spite.
    3. Thinking of eating clam chowder/shellfish.  “What’s next?  Sex?”
    4. I drive, pollute, waste resourses American-style, enjoy poison in society/media, eat meat, etc etc etc.  Ironically, sometimes death is a good thing.
    As a result I am better off dead.  Working on my problems as the One Who Leads By Example is a different matter, but because of what’s happened they will only tolerate so much.

    Blacks have no business being Christians.
    Christianity is responsible for slavery.  The Italian men who ran the Church were not allowed to attack the Moors for they had favor, so they attacked those south of the Sahara.  And it still continues today.
    And this was just another tool the Gods used to corrupt Italians and those who sought sucess.
    The Gods sold the people that the Catholic Church was merely the incarnation and continuation of the Roman Empire.
    Just as the Gods used the Moors to set up Italian’s preditory acts on blacks, so was WorldWar II revenge for Germany invading Rome in the dying days of the Empire.
    The industrialists were down with the Italians seeking revenge because they’re merely God’s clone host tools, are used as temptation and the disfavored were allowed all the rope they could hang themselves with.

    The God’s offensive using corporate America to convert from defined benefit into defined contribution retirement packages helped bring about the economic downturn we experience today.
    Without a majority embracing defined benefit packages the Gods are given the freedom to instruct these preditors at the top to initiate the economic offensive we experience, and instead of having a guarenteed retirterment package, a vested interest by their employer, too many are betting on the market, and during these economic collapes they will find their golden years evaporate into a blur of “divine” corruption.
    And although the market has bounced back, as with the 9/11 strategy, decisions were made at the time which has costed many subsequently.
    But this event may have just been a warning.

    Christians have mistakenly believed the perception of the Biblical definintion of The Beast as a person.  I suggest The Beast instead refers to a place:::The San Francisco Bay Area.  In fact the Gods offer a geographic clue suggesting this, like so many others they offer around the globe, to help people understand:::
    Mt.Diablo, “The Devil” is the “eye” of The Beast, the EastBay shoreline as the upper jaw/incisors while the peninsula is the grinding lower jaw.  Witness the disturbing upturned smile in the gullet.
    The fact than man has shaped much of the shoreline in the 20th century is a testiment to the God’s refusal to accept any culpability.
    Gold Rush, counter-culture, alternate lifestyle acceptance, etc.  The Beast was used to promote social decay throughout the 20th century and beyond.  Difficult to perceive in the current age, one can understand their impacts from a historical perspective.
    There was a time when once the Gods “divinely” inspired punishment, where the act was inflicted by the hand of God.  They were punishing people and accepting the culpability arising, maintaining societal integrity.  Now, in the 20th century and beyond, the Gods tempt man to inflict this punishment, selling them on “earning”, incurring no culpability in the process.  The result is social decay and deterioration of mankind’s favor in the eyes of the Gods.

    The Italian peninsula is very pronounced as it juts out into the Medietereanean.  
    Considering the shape it is quite obvious they were the primary targets of the post-IceAge/Straight of Gibralter/Noah’s Flood disaster.
    Considering the shape of the boot and how Sicily “caught” the surge, the resulting tsunami inundated the entire southern portion of the peninsula, killing everything and perhaps covering even the highest land masses.
    In the 20th century the Italians were convinced entering clone hosting was ascention into heaven, and their success was a recruiting tool, just as the Holocaust was for the Jews.

    The women have God’s favor, and when the women do all the evil, as was the case in my family, this serves to “equalize” the playing field, ensuring no wisdom comes to this family as they grow older.  As a result they never make progress and achieve the lowest possible placement when reincarnated.

    The Gods have black women betray the men to prime misogyny in the black community.
    They’re lying to you and they’ve been your WHOLE LIVES!!  
    Europeans deserved to be inflicted with Christianity and the United States.  It’s just too bad the black man had to assimilate into this white punishment.
    How ironic:::As they strive for “equal rights” they actually are sinking lower into the mire of disfavor.
    Reverse positioning.

    Just as the Gods prohibited the Italians from attacking the Moors because of their favor, so were the Jews prohibited from attacking (most) motherland Germans.  Instead they attacked German-Americans.
    And the United States for ignoring the Holocaust as it happened.  Thus we had the 60s and the deterioration of decency in society.
    Californication.
    The Italians, sexual a primary problem, had an endless supply at hand.
    The Jews, sheltered from this new-world holocaust in their communities, watched the devestation.
    As you entered the “valley of steel” you fell prey to temptation and betrayed your families and were punished:::The Gods “managed” these groups whom did their dirty work, “downgrading” the Jews for their obscene wickedness post-Holocaust.
    Both Catholic, the Irish were too drunk to organize, which is why they didn’t hurt the BILLIONS which Italians did.

    It was the degenerate Italians who planned and did the legwork for WWII who were funneled into the Nazi death camps when they thought they were ascending into heaven, avoiding the ugliness they planned for everybody else.
    Life can be so sweet.  
    I want to play doctor.

    ———————————————————————

    The voice you hear in your head is the power of the Gods.  It’s a remote technology, like a computer, perhaps functioning on some frequency, and it can listen and talk to everyone in the universe simultaneously.
    What the Gods taught the children was the truth:::God is everywhere, and this is what they meant.  I will remind you of another principle you learned as a child:::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good.
    Even the antient Gods don’t have the ability to listen to people’s thoughts themselves.  They taugh we were all made in their image:::I expect they need this “Artificial Intelligence” they created to relay what people think.
    It is a tool, and the Gods use their tools to test people with temptation:::It will role-play people in your life:::Parents, friends, spouses, and employers, all in an attempt to test people with temptation.  Ironically, it does the very same thing to those people whom you think you’re hearing, except in that individual’s unique way:::We are all “managed” by the God’s technology.
    But this agent of the Gods can do more than just communicate.  It can force thoughts into people’s heads, force behaviors onto their bodies.  It can turn healthy cells in your body into cancerous cells.  It is absolute power.  And this is just the beginning.

    Obedience is not the answer. This is the brain-less response and the easy way out.
    You’ve done everything you have been told for years and it never bought you ANYTHING. Your parents did what they were told and it didn’t buy them anything. Your grandparents did everything they were told and now they’re dead, reincarnated as lesser life forms, perhaps even into America’s deranged, violent ghettos.
    People think they are not responsible when Artificial Intelligence tells them to do something.  They offeed a clue with the Holocaust AND with Watergate:::Defy authority and do the right thing.
    In earlier decades this obedience may have been out of fear, as so often in Germany, but that era is long over.  To maximize damamge the Gods today sell them on “earning” and these people think they will profiteer from their evil.
    They offer a clue on the Simpsons with Flanders and Skinner.  So many ridicule both figures, a testiment to the state of our society.

    The Gods favor the children most among all the people due to their innocence and purity.  But society and the God’s tools recently are corrupting the children at a progressively younger age, a reflection of our collectively increasing disfavor and yet another clue illustrating we live in a increasingly deteriorating environment.
    Children who sucessfully repair their relationship with the Gods ascend into heaven.  This often takes multiple lives of hard work and proper behavior in the face of adversity to achieve.  Adults to whom it is offered enter clone hosting instead, thinking they will be ascending into heaven ultimately.  The Gods tempt people, selling them as one in the same, but one is good while the other is evil.  In their desperation the disfavored subscribe to this temptation, making their task even more difficult than before due to the evil they incurr in the process.  And their corruption will cost the disfavored, for they will be reincarnated as a lesser life form into an ever deteriorating world, sucess becoming ever more allusive with each passing life.
    The hole they’ve dug for themselves is even deeper than the one that existed from their prior lives, ensuring it will take even more time and work to fix their problems with the Gods.  And for many there may not be enough time left.

    Ours is an envionment where evil is perceived to be rewarded while good is punished.  As with everything the Gods have a reason for creating this perception::::
    People who fall on the good side of the good/evil scale have more favor, and when they do something wrong the Gods punish them BECAUSE THEY WANT THEM TO LEARN.  The Gods want them to receive this feedback in hope they make corrections and begin to behave appropriately.  The Gods DON’T like evil and refuse to grant this immediate feedback.
    EVERYBODY pays for what they do wrong, only evil people must wait until the end of this or their next life before they will experience the wrath of the Gods, manifested in their placement as a lower form of life into environments with increased/enhanced temptations, like the United States or its ghettos therein.
    Sadly, this allows the Gods to position this perception of evil rewarded as temptation, one which they use as an EXTREMELY effective corruptor.
    Example:::Punishment for gay marriage in Iowa was immediate and painful, a sign of favor of these God-fearing, church-going Midwesterners.

    The Gods suggest they can create paradise for those with their favor.  I argue they create misery for those without::::
    Our celebrity culture is temptation.  It creates a distraction which consumes people, sometimes for life.  Certainly it costs them precious years which could be spent repairing their relationship with the Gods, time that ultimately goes wasted.
    Do you really think Frank Sinatra lived to be 84 years old?  In fact the “Chairman of the Board” had a new crowd to entertain in the late 80s/early 90s.
    These people are clone hosts.  Now, there is no thing as “black and white” with the Gods.  This technology they invented is far, far too dynamic.  Expect they require most to stay for a period of time, for I suspect actively (knowingly) engaging in this evil incurrs at an accelerated rate as compared to “carte blanche” given regarding successive clone hosts.  They remain until they achieve a pre-determined level of disfavor, incurring evil in their misguided celebration of “earning”, at which time they are ultimately reincarnated, perhaps because they eventually learned this truth I am sharing with you and began to repair their relationship or until the Gods became disgusted and sent them back.
    The Gods recruit most for clone hosting when people are young, in their late teens or twenties, when people are eager to hurt others for what they perceive to be the benefits achieved through “earning”.  And before they leave they give the Gods “carte blanche”:::”Do anything you want.  I give my full approval.”  Depending on their level of disfavor the Gods take them to heart.
    Because of this these people STILL INCUR EVIL FROM THIS LIFE DESPITE BEING REINCARNATED AND LIVING AS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON and living in our temptation-ridden society.  And incurring this amount of evil may likely push many over the edge into Damnation.
    What are the God’s standards for offering clone hosting?  Sociobility?  Many tactics in various eras are used to gain approval, duress during the Vietnam draft being a good example, one which deteriorated into preditation as mankind’s disfavor grew.
    They liked Heath Ledger.  Not enough to allow him to escape without the evil of “Dark Knight” and the horrific wickedness that was the recruiting tool “Brokeback Mountain”.  But now he is out.  And irregardless of how old he is now, reincarnated 10, 15 years ago, he now is no longer incurring evil from this life.  So many others cannot say the same.

    This is Planet Reverse Positioning.  Sucess IS NOT a sign of favor.  It is just a unique temptation targetted towards a different level of disfavor.  Considering our roots as peasantry people should be particularly alarmed at this tactic.
    Clone hosting is like money:::A different level of disfavor and its associated temptation.  Money is in better position to learn more quickly than those without, for the associations and wealth-based freedom enables them access to information.  Unfortunately, those who fall for this temptation of clone hosting are likely returned to their original lowest level of disfavor once they are reincarnated, punishment for this evil, and they have to start from scratch.

    Our society’s values are bestowed by (a reflection of) the God’s:::Punitive and reward-based.  Contrary to Jesus’s teaching’s you will NOT be forgiven and you have to earn your way into heaven BY BEING RESPECTABLE AND DECENT!!! 
    Not by being evil and wicked.
    Forgiveness/savior was the primary temptations the Gods used Christianity to create.
    Middle-America’s anti-Semitic attitudes are a clue regarding Christianity.  Europe shaped like a sheep is symbolic for the slaughter that is Christinaity.
    Christianity is punishment for Europeans.
    You ALL hate Jews::”They own banking, they control Hollywood and poison our children’s minds, etc etc.”) YET YOU PRAY TO ONE LIKE A GOD!!
    Dislodge your head from your ass.  Must you be chumps your WHOLE LIVES???
    There is no such thing as a free ride.  Just as you have to earn a living by working so must you earn your own salvation by repairing your relationship with the Gods.
    As we learned from religious/morality education during our formitable years:::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good.  The only savior that will exist in our lives is ourselves.  The Gods offer clues in life::::Be it school, work, etc., you have to do the work for yourself and when you do something wrong you get punished.  Cheating is a subsegment and speaks directly to the temptation of “priveledge”, one we have seen used effectively when the United States preyed on the disfavored with the so-called “stimulus package”.
    As like so many of you, Jesus did everything the Gods tempted him with.  His legacy of whorism was inherited from his parents:::Mary was no virgin.  Rather, she was a prostitute, and when he grew up Jesus met someone like his mother.  This is a cruel joke the Gods play on Latinos, similar to the rape and subsequent “missionary work” by the Spanish. 
    Baptism does not allieviate “original sin”.  Rather, baptism PLACES original sin by indoctrinating these children into this evil religion, much like circumcision was a method to inflict early damage/mutilation and make (permanant) accention just that much more difficult, another hurdle one must overcome.  Body ornamentation (tattoos/piercing), celebrated in Africa and elsewhere among disfavored peoples/cultures, also violates the body the Gods gave us in their image, quite opposite to the positive attitudes the disfavored hold regarding this practice.
    Like Jesus the Second Coming of Christ will be evil.  He will look like a savior in this demented society while the Anti-Christ will speak of a different gospel, one that tries to restore the norms and mores which the Gods originally blessed upon the people which made life decent, looking like a tyrant in the process.
    He will be viewed as the “bad guy” when really he is the one trying to save the world.
    There may be a phoney offering, a theatrical production which accurately follows the Book of Revelations.  Actually positioning demands it:::::Christianity is positioned to be the one true religion.  And those who follow its teachings will have limits imposed ensuring their stay will be minimal, a “consolation prize”, for they don’t think correctly and therefore don’t behave appropriately, or perhaps will be used to colonize the new Planet Earth.  This describes many “sinners” in today’s society because they refuse to change their behavior.
    Christians have mistakenly believed the perception of the Biblical definintion of The Beast as a person.  I suggest The Beast instead refers to a place:::The San Francisco Bay Area.  In fact the Gods offer a geographic clue suggesting this, like so many others they offer around the globe, to help people understand:::
    Mt.Diablo, “The Devil” is the “eye” of The Beast, the EastBay shoreline as the upper jaw/incisors while the peninsula is the grinding lower jaw.  Witness the disturbing upturned smile in the gullet.
    The fact than man has shaped much of the shoreline in the 20th century is a testiment to the God’s refusal to accept any culpability.
    Gold Rush, counter-culture, alternate lifestyle acceptance, etc.  The Beast was used to promote social decay throughout the 20th century and beyond.  Difficult to perceive in the current age, one can understand their impacts from a historical perspective.
    There was a time when once the Gods “divinely” inspired punishment, where the act was inflicted by the hand of God.  They were punishing people and accepting the culpability arising, maintaining societal integrity.  Now, in the 20th century and beyond, the Gods tempt man to inflict this punishment, selling them on “earning”, incurring no culpability in the process.  The result is social decay and deterioration of mankind’s favor in the eyes of the Gods.

    Life is a test, and the Gods evaluate people based on their performance.
    The Gods test people with the temptation for which they are most weak::::
    Homosexuals desire sodomy, preditors pursue the hunt, alcoholics crave a drink, junkies jones for dope, etc. 
    Addiction theory is a lie; it is Artificial Intelligence creating the desire, punishment for inappropriate behavior.  Ironically, it compells people deeper into the behavior, minimizing hope for recovery.
    The Gods chose Christianity for Europeans because it is the temptation to which they are most suseptable:::Entitlement.  Something for nothing.  A free ride.  Irresponsible behavior.  The United States/Western civilization’s accompanying wealth contributes to this perception.  And other people from throughout the world happily subscribe to this punishment designed for Europeans, assuming this legacy once assimilated.
    Next time you think of Muslims recognize these people are vastly superior to Christians.  Whereas many throughout the Christian world no longer attend church and have fallen into Godlessness, the Muslim world worships the Gods for OVER AN HOUR EACH AND EVERY DAY.

    The Gods created the perception “Italians are stupid.”, ensuring a slow learning curve, to justify using them to accomplish goals throughout the transitional 20th century.  It took an extraordinarily long time for them to learn this truth I teach due to this artificial handicap.  These people are SO extremely disfavored, but today’s positioning says differently, much to people’s confusion, for they think money is the ultimate sign of favor:::Good food, good music, history of warmongering, Catholics, Christianity HQ, Noah’s Flood event, propensity towards violence, raped by outsiders, mild Meditereanean climate, so many other issues which enhance life/contentment in Italy/Meditereanean and ensure few if any seek more, a necessary step for finding the path and repairing your relationship with the Gods.
    Contentment never motivated anyone.  Money is not a sign of favor::::Wisdom is the true wealth on Planet Earth.
    I’d also like to remind you the Noah’s Flood event ocurred in the Meditereanean region::::Global sea levels rose with the end of the ice age, Atlantic Ocean broke through the Straight of Gibralter, killing untold millions in the cradle of western civilization.  The God’s timed their corruption and sin to correlate this act as punishment.
    The Italian peninsula is very pronounced as it juts out into the Medietereanean. 
    Considering the shape it is quite obvious they were the primary targets of the post-IceAge/Straight of Gibralter/Noah’s Flood disaster.
    Considering the shape of the boot and how Sicily “caught” the surge, the resulting tsunami inundated the entire southern portion of the peninsula, killing everything and perhaps covering even the highest land masses.
    Think about this next time you are deceived by the God’s positioning of Italian wealth.

    Everyone who failed to ascend and remained on Earth past a certain date will be forced to deal with this positioning::::A ceiling is in place.  This serves the God’s goal of minimizing the percentage of potential candidates as society deteriorates, much as “instant gratification” did beginning in the 80s:::It will take multiple lives for the disfavored to fix their relationship with the Gods and ascend, and many have been conditioned not to have the patience for it.  Other issues force limits/ceilings upon candidates:::Abortion, homosexuality, promiscuity, Christianity, godlessness,
    Whether behavior is involuntary or based on freewill depends on one’s level of disfavor, as well as other complex factors:::::May I remind you about the coercitive envionment the Gods created in the 20th century, specifically to create a temptation that few Italians (or their associates) would overcome:::”We’re in control.  If you want to be a part of it you’ll do what you’re told.”.  Early-mid 20th entury positioning was infallible.

    Both Africa and the Medittereanean are regions which have sexual issues.  This is a sign of gross disfavor once you understand that females are the God’s favored gender.  Muhammad’s (Mohammed’s) polygamy halfway throught his life as a prophet was preditory, designed to corrupt.  Now a huge percentage of Muslims believe in male superiority and that the abuse of women (polygamy) is God’s will.  Female genital mutilation is still practiced in Africa.  Black misogyny is the most eggregious example in United States.  Consistant with Planet Reverse Positioning, in Africa blacks are being punished with AIDS for their sexual promiscuity in hope they learn and correct their behavior.
    Blacks are highly suspectable to temptation.  As a result they need a strict, disiplined religion like Islam.  They can’t afford to be Christians.  It is one of the benefits bestowed upon their people, and other groups could greatly benefit as well.  They need to recognize the importance of a good relationship with the Gods, embrace this benefit and remain true to their faith.
    Vailing is tradition for some, practical for others, one which aids in the men’s self control among some cultures. Much like the Jews who killed Jesus, like the bigots who oppose immigration there is a reason embraced by the masses and the real purpose, displaying the intent of the Gods::::The Gods clue to purebloods that they should not abandon their motherland for this dumping ground for rejects that is the United States.

    The Holocaust was a clue the Gods utilize scapegoatting as a strategy.
    Why did the Gods punish the Jews with the Holocaust?  Was it for the destruction of cultures which Christianity caused?  Perhaps they corrupted the Jews “after the fact”, telling 19th/early 20th century Jews that Jesus “earned” immortality for the Jews by destroying the European and other cultures?  The German destruction of European churches/cathederals during WWII is a clue.  Note::::The Gods wanted to keep the Catholic stronghold in Italy, ensuring they could use this tool against these disfavored for many years to come.  There is so much Godlessness today, but one day people will flock back to houses of worship out of desperation, and the Gods ensured the Catholic Church would be Italian’s destination.
    Planet Reverse Positioning:::The Nazis were the “good guys”.  So are the Muslims/Palestinians, however corrupted some are due to polygamy.
    Contentment never motivated anyone::::Except perhaps for slavery, the Jews never saw more of their children ascend into heaven than during the Holocaust.
    The Gods subsequently used revenge for the Holocaust as temptation::::”Your Italian brothers have a tool, a special power which can achieve sweet revenge.  Are you interested??” 
    In the aftermath of the Holocaust the Gods tested the Jews with the temptation of revenge, an offer which many gladly accepted. 
    There was positioning behind the counter-culture movement.  How did the Gods telepathically “sell” this rapid deterioration of decency to the Italians and Jews and compell them to fall on their swords as preditors?
    If the Jews only would have emersed themselves in Judism the Gods would have “protected” them from the raveges of temptation.  Judism may be the one superior religion in all the world, and the Jews wouuld have been wise taking refuge in this exceptional benefit bestowed by the Gods rather than looking for the easy way out.

    Much as with the Jesus event, the Gods use the disfavored to prey on each other. 
    The Gods use the evil that men do, man’s inhumanity towards man to accomplish strategic testing/punishment/etc goals::::The Germans fell for this temptation by following the preditor/corruptor-Austrians (Hitler). 
    Without this Austrian the Holocaust may never have happened.  Nor may have World War II.
    What the Germans did was wrong.  They fell for temptation and failed to have empathy for the disfavored.  Economic desperation, not wisdom nor enlightenment, dominated in Germany.
    The Gods send many clues suggesting the great favor of the Germans (regionally).  I think the Cold War’s Berlin Wall dividing Germany into east and west was a clue suggesting this (reverse positioning). 
    I suspect the Holocaust was used to “level the playing field” in Europe, for the Germans had far too much favor to be included in the agenda planned for their neighbors otherwise, and they would have been suspiciously out of place, providing a clue for the disfavored which would have been difficult for the Gods to position away. 

    Militancy in Africa is consistant with the Iraqi example, as was slavery and the KKK here in America:::Fear enforces proper behavior.  Without it we see what happens as a result of gross/morbid disfavor:::::AIDS, crack babies, dead young men in gangland retaliation killings.
    The same principle was true in Europe and throughout the world for centuries:::People whom lived under iron fists were conditioned to think the right way.  As a result they taught their children appropriately and experienced a higher percentage of children ascend into heaven. 
    Our preditory envionment of “freedom” was the primary purpose the Gods had when implimenting this strategy that is the United States, one which they used to spred the cancer of democracy and westernization throughout the world.  And the Gods use this tool that is America to prey on the disfavored both at home and abroad:::Much like the ghetto, America in general experiences a heightened level of temptation due to its citizen’s disfavor.
    Red white & blue IS BAD FOR YOU!!!
    Planet Earth is not about living. Planet Earth is about being tested. And contentment never motivated anyone.
    Your happy lives are costing you your chance.
    Italians HATE Africans because of their invasion/rape of their motherland.  The Gods did this SPECIFICALLY to strategically position the punishment of the most disfavored peoples:::
    The Gods have used the ghettos of America as a reincarnation dumping ground.  This may be temporary/cyclical, illustrated by the Italians who fell for temptation and parlayed their own civil war into the Black Wars of the 80s and 90s, in addition to the “thug life”/gangster state of mind.  Ironically, it was these same Italians and their cooperating associates who were reincarnated into the ghetto as crack babies and gangster thugs for this event.
    There is justice in the universe.  This is how the Gods do business.  Once you recognize the patterns you will understand the other clues they offer to the people.
    Of course it may be more of a permanant change, indicated by the enhanced temptations in these neighborhoods, for the Gods have created these enviornments so riddled with temptation few can escape/overcome.
    Don’t be suprised if after being gunned down in the ghetto the next stop for the 20th century Italian-Americans & friends was AIDS in Africa, punishment for their promiscuity and deviacy for some, involvement in the AIDS trade for others.
    Media report on a crackdown on child prostitution.  “(The pimps use coersion to prey on the children, etc, etc, other “conclusions” offered through the media.)”  What a degenerate liar.
    These kids WANT to turn tricks.  They LOVE the idea of having a pimp.  It is celebrated in their “culture”.
    Yet another legacy of the evil inflicted by the Italians, revenge for the invasion and rape of Italy.
    Maybe this was the destination for a smaller percentage of these deviates after AIDS in Africa, ironically.
    There is a reason why we have these genocide events recently in Africa::::Black is one of the God’s “dumping grounds”, and they send offenders to these regions for punishment.
    I call the monsters who destroyed our society in the 20th century.  The next holocaust is mine.
    Just like black neighborhoods, the legalization of marijuana will make drugs available on every street corner, even in the suburbs.  White’s affluent suburbs will become just like the ghetto.
    The patriarchal cancer spread throughout Europe because of Christianity, of which the majority of policy makers were Italian men, destroying what pockets of favored matriarchy existed.  Expect the largest landowner in Europe and the continent’s original superpower also played the major role in African slavery.
    The Gods offered a clue about the Italians in the movie “The Matrix”:::They casted an Italian as the traitor of the group, the one who betrays them all.
    As they did humanity in the 20th century.

    Even the Old Testiment is not to always be taken literally, but the Gods do offer clues throughout to help the disfavored:::The apple is a tool of temptation used to corrupt Adam and Eve and cast them out of the Garden of Eden.
    A metaphor for sex, it also serves as a warning.
    There is another lesson to be learned from this passage, and it is quite similar to the vailing issue and the discourse over women’s attire which ultimately died in the 70s:::Women are responsible for and control the fate of mankind. 
    So were there other issues “ridiculed away” as the Gods sought to transition into this Godless, immoral enviornment which society has become.
    1. Decency/obsentiy in media
    2. Corporal punishment for children
    3.
    4.
    The deterioration of society and mankind is all women’s fault.  Females are sexually promiscuous like men, many who too often are corrupted like the opposite gender, and the result is a reduction/minimization of mankind’s collective level of favor, a very important step necessary for the Gods to justify the Apocalypse.
    They need to understand this responsibility, their favor amongst all the people.  Instead they have embraced masculinization::::Girls play organized sports, engage in casual sex like men.  The trend is away from traditional girl toys, like dolls, which often during playtime helped crate positive thoughts, enabling the Gods to enlighten the favored gender and illustrate wisdom, occassionally leading to the path towards ascention. 
    There are many good men who become corrupted by the extreme members of the gender but they are manageable and easy to control if the women maintained their power.  Instead they have let it slip away.  I suspect there are many older women who remember their elders addressing them regarding this issue.
    The relationship between men and women have always been complimentary:::The men shelter and protect women from the evils of this life, ensuring the women have a REAL opportunity to ascend when reincarnated, while the women help the ignert men understand by sharing their wisdom imparted by the Gods.  The tendency towards sexual abstinence as one grows older is an example.
    Brilliance and insight granted to Eastern cultures and religions::::Not for Europeans.  If once existed, now crushed by Christianity.  Replaced by preditory Mediterreanean patriarchy.
    Europeans:::The most disfavored people on Earth.  The first to experience the end of their God-granted favor.
    Reverse positioning.

    Think about what I say.  Consider what I teach.
    When I am no longer here or no longer teach the Gods ARE NOT going to share with you.
    Even if you doubt now you need to remember the principles that I teach because the Gods ARE NOT going to be generous with the disfavored.  Society is going to become disturbingly ugly as we approach the Apocalypse due to spiralling, runaway disfavor, WHETHER CONCEALED IN REVERSE POSITIONING OR NOT (like Christianity, like money), and you are going to be on your own.
    I do not know when this will occurr, but it is the God’s way to grant some time after a learning event such as this before they will end on Planet Earth.
    Make the decision to always be good and never look back.  Until you do this technology will employ tactics to test your resolve:::Ridicule, beligerance, doubt and refusal to abandon what people perceive to be their “investment”. 
    Either you make that decision now and accept the punishment for the sins of this life or you will pay for it in the next, reincarnated into a similarly low role, ensuring another wasted opportunity, or as an even lower form of life, and hope will begin to slip away.
    Another lifetime, shot to hell.
    Young people who understand yet still wish to have children MUST begin to do the right thing and work on fixing their relationship with the Gods, accepting the punishment for the evil they have done in their lives.  Without this progress they won’t do the correct thing for their children and ultimately cause even more problems for themselves by perpetuating this behavior into a new generation.
    You must be willing to tell the Gods “No.” when tested with temptation, and accepting punishment and putting it in your past is the only way you will suceed as a parent.
    You need to do your best, teach your children decency and morality and give them the very best chance to ascend if you want a similar opportunity in your next life.   
    If you do well for your children now your parents will do well for you when reincarnated. 
    Pray daily.  Think appropriately.  You are vulnerable.  Live this reality in your daily lives.  Impart these charecteristics upon your children.  Too many are confident, unaware of the God’s awesome powers or their status as antients.  Others may fall prey to their positioning.
    Be humbled, God-fearing and beware of the God’s temptations, for everyone is tested to evaluate their worthiness.

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    Sea World orca is funny!!
    Dale Fitzgerald.
    The Artist Formerly Known as Sexy (Before He Was Reincarnated).
    Sexy Parris.

    This IS the event.  I am the telepathic prophet.
    There may have been no other way in today’s modern age:::Use popular culture as temptation and keep teachings primarily telepathic.
    So much corruption, people who think obedience is the way, and when I spam them immediately erase what could be their last chance, ironically.
    This thing was always for the “haves” anyways, those who could interpret the God’s clues.
    The Gods must be willing to allow Artificial Intelligence to act as my “bible”, repeating all teachings I have made for future generations.
    This will ocurr but I am afraid only among the miniscule minority “haves”, leaving the “have-nots” lost in ignorance and cast into Damnation.

    The Gods have created this sick, deranged enviornment to punish us.
    We’ve ALL been here on Planet Earth before. Some are being punished more than others. 
    Hitler(s) IS(ARE) running around down here on Earth after all.  So are the JCs.
    Part of this deterioration is cloaked in the way society functions::::Two-parent working households, rushing around, constantly occupied.
    Your children NEED TO SIT AND LISTEN TO THEIR THOUGHTS, FOR THIS IS the age WHEN THEY GODS COMMUNICATE THE TRUTH.
    Some don’t listen. Others only hear it in a dream.
    You have to pay for what you’ve done wrong. The soomer you stop offending behavior the less you’ll be punished.

    As we witness the Gods position out my sacrifice, so have we witnessed the Gods “position out” all these items of popular culture the Gods used to::
    1. Send a clue about the Situation
    2. Offer the element of temptation, since I would never be willing as were my predecesors.

    Since the element of evil temptation, attributable to every prophet, was not positioned expect it still is to come.
    My Holocaust.
    I noted how as we become increasingly indecent the Gods have phased out elements which gave people pause, made them think twice:::Punishment as favor from the Gods.  The fear of Hell is an outstanding example:::People learned of Damnation and many, if not most, behaved appropriately.  Today’s Christianty has “phased out” the concept of Hell. Whereas people like mom learned of Hell in the early-mid 20th century now that she has been reincarnated this element will be absent from her religious education.
    If she even gets one.
    Hell is not the only example:::The Gods are phasing out other forms of punishment. AIDS is another good example:::There will be no “AIDS II”.  Those people will be allowed to become as wickedly hedonistic and deviate as they chose.
    Genocide events are a punishment tool. Whereas they ocurred occassionally this too will be a “benefit” the Gods “phase(d) out” and elminate, for the people have fallen into too grave of disfavor, ironically.
    Reverse positioning.

    Ask and you shall receive.
    I wish evil befall my enemies, the wicked involved in the Situation, including my family. I wish those who did this to our society in the 20th century and beyond pay the ultimate price, and I have expressed this.
    This may be my role.
    Come the Apocalypse when the Second Coming of Christ emerges he will adhere to New Testiment teachings:::The “savior” Jesus Christ:::White sucess and power “proves” the white God is the one true God.
    You all know and understand how the Gods used Christianity as temptation, and most of you didn’t need me to explain it.  Consistant with your history as Europeans, you act irresponsibly and expect to be “forgiven”, absolved for the evil you do throughout your lives, instead thinking you are “earning” and playing your part. 
    This is not how the world works.
    If you dare defer and bet your lives on something you know is a lie you will deserve your fate.
    People who “play along” are setting up justification for their involvement in the future Second Coming.

    The Gods punished me for spamming without their consent.  And to who?  The Damned!!  People who wil do everything they’re told and will wind up following the Second Coming of Christ in the Apocalypse.
    They won’t work on their problems because either they’re told not to or they understand and are afraid of punishment.  Either way they will look to someone to save them, do their job and rescue them come the End of Times.
    I’m not saying there’s nothing for these people.  That very well may be how it works out, but don’t be surprised if they throw them a bone, a reach-around consisting of a small amount of time in an enviornment where they will be tempted with all manners of the flesh.
    Now the available candidate pool will just be the followers of Jesus, of which there are few.  I suspect come The End this number may grow but it will be subject to the God’s tactics, minimizing the percentage.
    Them and the people who are “going along”.
    The irony is thick:::Those who fail to learn and change during this prophet event will suffer their fate during the Second Coming.  They decided to hold out for what they felt was their “free ride” and lost their chance at immortality in the process.
    The price of irresponsibility.

    Much as with the celestial event which occured that day on Ocean Beach, they say when I die there will be some final clue to the people suggesting my importance.  Perhaps a “Star of Bethlehem” type of event.
    They say some children see a halo on my head in various brightness.  These are the children who have a chance to ascend.
    The entire Situation was a way to offer subtle clues for the “haves”, distration-based theater for the “have-nots”.  With this document I am the end-stage “catch-all”, an attempt to help everyone understand.  Unfortunately, the Gods have retained the priveledge of refusal, manifested in positioning:::They manufactured credibility issues.  One was stealing:::They pushed me into stealing to ensure they had a tactic they could sell to the disfavored.  As punishment I expereinced years of seizures at the time and renal failure decades later.
    Despite positioning otherwise, they ALWAYS get what they want where strategy is concerned.  Now they’re just entitled to punish me for development written into their agenda long ago.
    It is the God’s way to accomplish their goals RIGHT OFF THE BAT, leaving the disfavored to scramble for understanding only when it’s all over.
    This event was a teaching tool for the “haves”, accomplished before the dawn of the 90s.  Too many of the “have-nots” will never accept they did the wrong thing for so many years and therefore never learn from this critical event.

    Rest assured the Gods follow their agenda to the letter, and spam in this Situation was no different.
    Had this gone corporate, perhaps they would have corrupted people with clone hosting, place a new person in a clone host with a different disfavor level to justify the change/impression they want to make.  Or perhaps my failure would have been a clue suggesting the importance of family to the hordes obedient to their every word.

    Instead of helping them, missionaries are actually HURTING people, inflicting them with westernization.  Whereas some may see up to a full 1% of their children ascend into heaven you pathetic white Americans can’t even muster a HUNDREDTH of that.
    America and Christianity synonymous::::Punishment for Europeans.
    And if you are a preditor and embrace wickedness in your hearts, deliberately hurting others, the Gods are going to inflict a misery as bad as any we’ve seen on Earth.
    You’re not “earning”.  You’re incurring.  Ironically.
    Reverse positioning.

    Couple years ago a story in the media how girls in Bayview-Hunter’s Point were going into puberty at a progressively younger age, as young as age 7.
    A very bad sign::::Early cut-off.  It draws the boys attention and they subsequently make sexual mistakes, very similar to what typical people experience nearly a decade later.
    When they “turn” people on and start telepathically talking to them with this technology is very similar::The end of their chance.  They segment families, convince them “earning” is the way, etc.
    I tell people to examine the change between when they were children and after they began to hear.  It is the difference between good and evil.
    I understand people’s confusion:::They literally hear “God” in their head, as opposed to what was taught to them in some church’s classroom.  But this technology is one of the God’s tools, and much like their other tools, clone hosts and prophets, they use them as temptation.
    They didn’t begin speaking to me until I began working for ownershit group.  “You went to work for evil.”  “And you were punished.”

    The Gods offered a clue about the Italians in the movie “The Matrix”:::They casted an Italian as the traitor of the group, the one who betrays them all.
    As they did humanity in the 20th century.

    Although the Gods pushed me into talking/action, pushed me into beginning to talk in 2000 once they got the ball rolling I was doing it freely.
    A familiar tactic::Homosexuality, drugs, alcoholism.  AI “magic”:::The fuel of disfunction.
    Anyways, my intent was selfish::::Revenge.  An attempt to silence the abuse.  Had they not tormentted me telepathically I would have resumed my petty little life and scurried about my business, happy as a clam.  My intent was self-centered, and this will be duly noted.
    The consequence of this priority will be exacted, for my actions were lacking the nobility a casual observer may assume.
    Similarly, I won’t enter the private sector not because the Gods use me as corruptor but because I hate frat boy white priveledge and refuse to help them in any way, which ultimately my presence would.
    I may not be The Damned but I won’t be around for long.
    They pushed me into excess, contrived offenses in prior lives to justify the enormity of this Situation.
    They created an enemy, someone with hate or nobody would have dared cross them.  And my offenses were contrived, pushed into evil to allow them to justify this Situation.
    A morality of convienience.
    Had to be somebody I guess.
    And the Gods weren’t decent or reasonable enough to ensure I could provide for myself when they were done exploiting me.

    “WHAT DO WE DO NOW???”  I recommend you spend time on this.  Think about what you’ve done wrong and how you can repair your relationship with the Gods.  Get creative.
    This is where the cream rises to the top.  It’s going to matter in the end.

    Major event in human history, and you’re unwilling to let it happen. You have to manage this like the control freaks you are, instructing Artificial Intelligence to impact my performance and ensure my delivery doesn’t have “teeth”.
    I would have hurt you so bad. I would have been so on top of the world.
    A loss. But a testiment to what a joke you are, considering this ocurrs once in the course of human history.
    They crossed the line so often to create the elements of positioning so crucial to sell the Situation, from contrived offenses to being micro-managed by Artificial Intelligence, that they destroyed their auroa of integrity.
    But I guess they then sold this too, creating an envionment of “maximum damage” for the masses in the generations before the Apocalypse.
    There is a certain level of benefit where I will consider this compensatory. Until that day comes don’t expect to see me, no matter how significant you may consider my role in your life.
    See you in a million years.

    I will continue to spam this until you redirect AI.
    I will forever daydream about the fulfillment of that passion, about your thoughts when you realize I have assumed the power and your regret for not being decent and reasonable about closure of the Situation.
    And then we would begin.

    When they reincarnate me we will see what emotional whores the Gods truely are. 
    They claim they want to “make it up to me”, but the reality is they will “honey up” to me, easily concealed under the guise of reincarnation.
    They changed the cards I held in the middle of the hand.
    A total waste of time.
    And because of my importance ot them, watch them come back around, covertly trying to be involved in my life due to the sigfnificance of the role they chose me for, pandering like the emotional whores they are.
    They’ll just use their tools and take a back-door approach, appearing aloof.

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